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Post by halen99 »

http://www.soundsonline.com/product.php ... tid=EW-150

See above link. This sounds amazing but I'm just not getting how it works.. MIDI thru a keyboard? Sorry if I'm dumb :)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology

you make a midi track in your recording software and run it thru the VSTI, which plays the samples.
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blue wrote:http://en.[CENSORED].org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology

you make a midi track in your recording software and run it thru the VSTI, which plays the samples.
Or you can connect an external MIDI-capable instrument to your computer and play it via that, of course.
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Do you think that I could somehow use this with Pro Tools /digi 002 thru midi?
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halen99 wrote:Do you think that I could somehow use this with Pro Tools /digi 002 thru midi?
Yes. Assuming you're ready to install a 30 gig program and are willing to invest your resources into a tool you obviously haven't used. Assuming you live in the Kingdom of Infinite Moneys / Hard-drives, why not go VSL? It's only 550 gigs.

Re-reading my response, it sounds harsh. I don't mean it that way. Just know what you're getting into. Also know that unless you're going to take serious advantage of the different instrument articulations, this VSTi isn't going to sound like the demos on the site.
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Got it, thanks. I don't want anything too difficult. I liked those demos so that is why I ask. I really want the real sound of strings without having the real thing. Any suggestions?
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Cadenza is free, light, and sounds alright. They work well in the background of a mix, but don't hold up as solo instruments. I remember the cello, the ensemble, and the double bass sounding pretty decent.
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cool thank you. Could you please briefly explain SoundFont's? I admit I'm fairly new to all this stuff. Growing up I only had crappy casio's. Only now am I starting to learn MIDI a bit. My setup is this.. Digital Piano with midi -- then I have Protools 6. I have figured how hot to MIDI sounds using The Reason that came with my bundle.

With a SoundFont -- I'm trying to grasp where I would load that file into.

Thanks and sorry for so many questions. I'm not getting it from searching the net.

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Soundfonts are sound samples in a certain format. you need a soundfont player to use them. Luckily, they are available for free!

http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfz.htm

You can also find lots of free soudfonts out on the web. There are many of them here.

http://hammersound.net/cgi-bin/soundlink.pl

I use these a lot for composing and for strings.

I don't use Pro Tools but I assume that it supports VST instruments. So, you load in the sfz soundfont player as a VSTi. Then you load in a soundfont into the player. Assign your keyboard to this track and you should be able to play it back using your midi keyboard.

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Post by john m »

edirol Orchestral HQ is not that big and sounds quite good. I've been having fun with it.
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I had gotten recommendations for one, and john m reminds me of what it's called... couldn't remember it. thanks john.
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