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Postby Lunkhead » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:24 pm

If you choose a name like "Butter" or "Poodle" or "Feldspar" or "Ampersand" or "Octothorpe" or "add", or some other English word or phrase that sounds cool and that somebody else might want to use for a band name-- that is a risk you take when choosing that name. Hell, even stuff like "Loyalty Day" or "Urine Luck" aren't completely safe from this phenomenon.


What -is- safe from this? "The Jon Benjamin Band"? "lsaidjaosidajosj"? It's less likely someone will coincidentally choose one of those band names out of the blue, but as soon as someone submits under any band name, anyone can use that name.

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That doesn't mean there shouldn't be a concrete policy about this. What's going to happen with the artist archive? Will the "original" Feldspar have somebody else's songs on his page? You'll probably wind up having to distinguish between the two Feldspars somehow, so now might be a good time to set the policy.

Maybe the response to a duplicate name would be something like, "Sorry, that name's already taken, you'll have to be 'Feldspar (2)' or choose something else." ?

Just my $0.02...
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Postby Phil. Redmon. » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:03 pm

I think it's some damn bullshit. In the "real" world, when you find out your band name has already been used by another band, you change your damn name.

Feldspar U.K.

Feldspar Jr.

Son Of Feldspar.

If it was me, I'd be raising holy hell about it.

I think the FM's should give "classic" Feldspar the e-mail address the song came from, so, at least, the dude knows what going on, and mebbe they can work something out.

Or, okay, a slightly more diplomatic approach, to prevent "hey, don't give out my e-mail" issues would be FM's give Feldspar U.K. the orig's e-mail.

Oof. I'd be steamed. But I'm like that.
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Postby FightMaster Jr. » Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:34 pm

Phil. Redmon. wrote:I think it's some damn bullshit. In the "real" world, when you find out your band name has already been used by another band, you change your damn name.

I think the FM's should give "classic" Feldspar the e-mail address the song came from, so, at least, the dude knows what going on, and mebbe they can work something out.

Or, okay, a slightly more diplomatic approach, to prevent "hey, don't give out my e-mail" issues would be FM's give Feldspar U.K. the orig's e-mail.

Oof. I'd be steamed. But I'm like that.


Read my post in the other thread.

And also, we will never give out anyone's email address without permission. We will hardly ever even tell you the name of someone who submits, or the alias, or whatever, unless they have revealed it elsewhere.

And furthermore, getting "steamed" is definitely not the right way to get results from FightMaster.
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Postby fodroy » Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:42 pm

i do not consider feldspar to be a normal everyday word that multiple artists would be likely to use as a moniker. i had never heard the word "feldspar" before coming to songfight. it doesn't look at all like a coincidence to me. my guess is a troll trying to ruffle some feathers.

so even though my band name sucks, i would be steamed if someone submitted under my name.
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Postby j$ » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:08 am

Crisis on alternative earths! some thoughts

There is no such thing as an original thought, obviously. The London Feldspar would be a good name. No copyright on intellectual property! (where is Adjuster when you need a good half-page post)?

What 'Original Flavour' Feldspar should have done is PMed pretender to the throne and politely sorted it out instead of trumpeting on the boards. I am sure that a comprimise could have been reached.

It's not like he's been fighting on a regular basis. Why should new F spin through 1,000 artists in the archive to find out if a name has been taken?

Anyway, Barry Allen Feldspar has pointed out the difference so we all now know. Let's wait and see how Wally West Feldspar reacts instead of getting uppity, eh?

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Postby HeuristicsInc » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:22 am

j$ wrote:Next week, I shall be recording as Johnny Cashpoint, and we shall see how Johnny Cashpoint likes it...


He's gonna complain all week, that's what I think.
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Postby the Jazz » Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:14 am

j$ wrote:Anyway, Barry Allen Feldspar has pointed out the difference so we all now know. Let's wait and see how Wally West Feldspar reacts instead of getting uppity, eh?

I'm the Feldspar! You hear me, punk? I'M THE FELDSPAR!
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Postby prayformojo » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:30 am

I'm really glad that Elvis Costello didn't sue the makers of Napolean Dynamite over the use of that name. Then we never would have gotten that kick ass movie.
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Postby Hoblit » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:34 pm

I for one will be entering as John Benjamin Band from now on :P
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Postby Fried » Fri Oct 01, 2004 10:50 am

This just brings up a memory. In the late seventies and the early eighties there were a milllion bands named "Pegasus" or some variation. Maybe Feldspar will become the next over used name. I may have to grab Fried-Feldspar before the movement gets under way. Seriously, all you can do is tell the man and have them change the name to preserve the archives.
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Postby king_arthur » Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:50 am

The new hxaro: Josh Woodward picks somebody who's never come out on top in a songfight, enters as them, and gives them their first win...

No, probably not...

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Postby Generic » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:04 pm

I am an idiot.

Where is the other thread?
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Postby jack » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:44 pm

king_arthur wrote:The new hxaro: Josh Woodward picks somebody who's never come out on top in a songfight, enters as them, and gives them their first win...

No, probably not...

Charles


even better, he enters a song as "the sober irishman" and deems it to be his "cover" that he keeps getting slagged about.
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Postby j$ » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:14 pm

Fried wrote:This just brings up a memory. In the late seventies and the early eighties there were a milllion bands named "Pegasus" or some variation. Maybe Feldspar will become the next over used name. I may have to grab Fried-Feldspar before the movement gets under way. Seriously, all you can do is tell the man and have them change the name to preserve the archives.



I have already registered all possible variations on website names absed on feldspar just in case. Watchout for feldsparfight.org, coming soon to a url near you.

(grammar query - why do words starting with U always take 'a' rather than 'an'? Is there an official linguistic reason beyond it sits ebtter on the tongue? Just curious ...)
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Postby Generic » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:05 pm

Linguisticly, you're supposed to use "a" for any word that begins with a consonant sound (including /w/ and /y/), and "an" for any word beginning with a vowel sound. Therefore, when you verbally say "URL," you're saying "Yoo-Are-Ell." It begins with the sound /y/, and thus merits the exclusion of the n.

Don't quote me on this, but I think there's an ambiguous exception for words beginning with H, so my english teacher can sound all smart-like and say "He is an historian."
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Postby fodroy » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:19 pm

Generic wrote:Don't quote me on this, but I think there's an ambiguous exception for words beginning with H, so my english teacher can sound all smart-like and say "He is an historian."

gah! i hate when people do that! i hate it! i hate it! i hate it!
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Postby Spud » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:04 pm

I don't get it. An historian is correct.
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Postby fodroy » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:05 pm

it sounds bad though.
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Postby TVsKyle » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:50 pm

It sounds just fine if you say it with a british accent.
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Postby Generic » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:19 pm

I guess it's correct, I'm inclined to believe Spud. If you say that, are you still supposed to pronounce the H, like my English Teacher does? Because that actually does sound awkward, to my ears.
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Postby Kamakura » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:22 pm

If you don't mind it's an English accent. not British.

You do pronounce the 'H', and that stormtrooper is worrying me.
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Postby j$ » Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:12 am

Kamakura wrote:If you don't mind it's an English accent. not British.

You do pronounce the 'H', and that stormtrooper is worrying me.


Depends where you come from in England of course. I live near the dropped Hs of the East End of London. They would say (if they said it at all) 'istorian. So it would be 'an 'istorian', which gets round the whole 'h' dilemma :)

'A historian' (the way i would say it) sounds stupid because my natural inclination is stress the A to get away with it. 'An historian' is probably correct (because Hs are silent grammatically, I think) but it sounds awkward to say, so I guess the best thing for me is not to use the phrase 'An historian' in a sentence!

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