Ohne Ruhm

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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby jast » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:09 am

Yeah, I know about ZCM and I've used it myself, and your description about how it works is spot on.

I was talking about the type of compression you're doing as its "competitor". Limiting is compression with a high ratio (e.g. > 8:1) and fast attack, and brickwall limiting is compression with a very high ratio (e.g. > 20:1 up to infinite) and very fast attack, down to 0 ms. There are dedicated brickwall limiters designed for transparent sound. Doing limiting with a generic compressor plugin is possible but needs a fair amount of practice and personally I prefer using a limiting plugin so I don't have to think about it as much.

Article about why limiting doesn't need to be bad (from someone who is very outspoken against excessive loudness, interestingly): http://productionadvice.co.uk/brickwall-limiters/

I used the free JB Barricade limiter but just now discovered that Barricade Pro has been released for free since. It has an impressive set of features, it's basically three limiters at once, but requires some knowledge of the various things it does and I did have to read the manual. It's available for download in this bundle (which contains a few other nice things, too): https://web.archive.org/web/20130608183 ... vst_jb.htm

I used Barricade Pro just now on my "Ocean of Love" where I originally didn't push the gain very far.
Original: http://www.songfight.org/music/ocean_of ... er_ool.mp3 - 1 dB master gain, limited to -1 dB to hopefully avoid inter-sample clipping. Has a mean dynamic range of 10-12 (according to the very useful Meters/dynamics_meter JS plugin shipped with REAPER).
New: http://static.music-jk.net/attic/ocean_of_love+5.mp3 - 5 dB master gain, limited to 0 dB because Barricade Pro has built-in support for handling inter-sample clipping. Has a mean dynamic range of 8-10 which is okay. Sounds pretty much identical to the original when level-matched, at least to me.

If you like I can write some more about compression and limiting but I guess it'd make sense to take it to the help+howto forum or sfbase (side note: the artist pages haven't auto-updated in about three years). I could have sworn I wrote about this already on the wiki but I guess it might have been JB's wiki which seems to be gone.
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby iVeg » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:59 am

Had a coherent "get into nature" lyric, California v Canada. When Merisan got out, and the other 3 came back, the song lost its point. So I wrote something completely different. Slow connection, so I'll try to upload it again tomorrow.
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby Niveous » Wed May 16, 2018 10:11 am

Hey all,

So eliminations have begun again. To those who have been eliminated or those who are just wanna play along, please feel free to shadow. Put them here!

The Nur Ein is a crazy experience and one big reason why I keep running it every year is because of the creativity it fosters. Don't let elimination stop that creative flow. Keep going!
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby BoffoYux » Wed May 16, 2018 11:01 am

If you do a shadow song for Nur Ein - Let me know so I can grab a copy and play it during the Listening Party! I don't always check here before the show.

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Postby Pigfarmer Jr » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:03 am

I did a shadow for 3:20 but never posted it. Just for completeness I'll put it here. (I did email it prior to the deadline, but I had forgotten that they aren't put on the Nur Ein site or used anywhere.)


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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby glennny » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:27 pm

Never Knew the Guy
Cavedwellers Shadow Entry

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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby iVeg » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:04 pm

Hazardous Waste - Nur Ein XIII.5
Inflatable Vegetables shadow entry
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Postby iVeg » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:03 pm

Inflatable Vegetables - Fan Theory [shadow entry]
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby Cybronica » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:01 pm

Mandibles - Fan Theory - Shadow entry

https://soundcloud.com/kempson-abigail/ ... fan-theory
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby glennny » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:29 pm

glennny- Fan Theory

https://soundcloud.com/glenartrock/glennny-fan-theory

famous Ferris Club fan theory
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby Cybronica » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:42 pm

Ok, since everyone's comments were about the mixing, I tweaked the levels (am I using the lingo right?) and reuploaded. I figure since it's a shadow entry, that won't matter, right? :)

https://soundcloud.com/kempson-abigail/ ... fan-theory
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby iVeg » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:29 pm

Inflatable Vegetables - The End
This takes place about 2 weeks after the round 0 song [Trial by Fire]- same general story.
Don't need to put this in the listening parties. Won't hurt my feelings :)
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby Cybronica » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:40 am

Cavedwellers and mandibles teamed up this week to bring you a joint shadow entry for The End:

https://soundcloud.com/glenartrock/the- ... ibles-mix1

Endjoy! ;)
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby glennny » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:16 am

The title of this round is "The End"

so in the tradition of Baby's Got Back and Big Bottom

I present The (Rear) End

https://soundcloud.com/glenartrock/glennny_the-rear-end
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby ujnhunter » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:24 am

iVeg wrote:Inflatable Vegetables - The End
This takes place about 2 weeks after the round 0 song [Trial by Fire]- same general story.
Don't need to put this in the listening parties. Won't hurt my feelings :)


Ah ha! Found it! I heard this on the listening party for "The End" and had been trying to figure out where to download it! Very Pete Shelley ala Homosapien. I dig it.
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Re: Ohne Ruhm

Postby iVeg » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:58 am

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment!
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