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Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:01 pm

Welcome to Round Zero of Nur Ein X

Title: Standing on the Edge
Non Optional Challenge: Lyrics must include your own name
Songs are Due on: Monday, April 20th @ 12:01 AM Eastern
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:04 pm

"Name check" can be the name of the lead singer or the name of the band.

Here are some examples:









Further examples from Song Fight & Nur Ein history:
Kompressor - "Don't Dance"
Manhattan Glutton - "Your Light No Longer Shines" (Nur Ein IX, Round 1)
Jon Eric - "Looking Glass" (Nur Ein VIII, Round 1)

Feel free to contribute other examples if any should come to mind.

Also feel free to ask any questions you might have. If you've ever been in a Nur Ein before, you probably know that the challenges are often worded in a way to provide room for multiple interpretations, and the five judges don't always necessarily agree on what the challenge entails (or how important it is to the judging process) anyway, so answers won't necessarily be straightforward, but I will do my best to address any questions you bring up in this thread.

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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Caravan Ray » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:40 pm

Generic wrote:Further examples from Song Fight & Nur Ein history:
Kompressor - "Don't Dance"
Manhattan Glutton - "Your Light No Longer Shines" (Nur Ein IX, Round 1)
Jon Eric - "Looking Glass" (Nur Ein VIII, Round 1)

Feel free to contribute other examples if any should come to mind.

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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby glennny » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:24 am

I can't believe your examples didn't include Iron Maiden by Iron Maiden from the album Iron Maiden.
or Big Country by Big Country from the album Big Country.

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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby jb » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:43 am

Livin' in a Box by Livin' in a Box from their album Livin' in a Box.

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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:50 am

glennny wrote:I can't believe your examples didn't include Iron Maiden by Iron Maiden from the album Iron Maiden.
or Big Country by Big Country from the album Big Country.

fun challenge!


Indeed, those are notable omissions, and obviously both would have counted!

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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby josh » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:22 pm

In all fairness, he'd already included Bad Company by Bad Company from Bad Company which sadly didn't make it into the soundtrack of 2002's "Bad Company".
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:14 pm

josh wrote:In all fairness, he'd already included Bad Company by Bad Company from Bad Company which sadly didn't make it into the soundtrack of 2002's "Bad Company".


Though, as a decent consolation prize, it was on the soundtrack to 2001's Scotland, PA.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby frankie big face » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:28 pm

Where's the controversy? When I tune in to Nur Ein, I expect some gnashing of teeth and crocodile tears (mostly from J$—he's very sensitive).
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby ploogle » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:19 pm

frankie big face wrote:Where's the controversy? When I tune in to Nur Ein, I expect some gnashing of teeth and crocodile tears (mostly from J$—he's very sensitive).


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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby iVeg » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:08 pm

J$'s a judge this year, so he'll be causing more teeth gnashing and crocodile tears than committing. Besides, this is only 21 hours into Fight 0...
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby chocolatechips » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:19 pm

I have to have mine finished by about 6 pm EST tomorrow due to a trip so I'm feeling the pressure already ! I got somethin' cookin' but not close to finished yet.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby j$ » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:41 am

I am trying a new tack this time round - this year I will be docking voting points from a) people who piss me off with inane whining/squeeing on the threads and b) Manhattan Glutton.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby josh » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:42 pm

Got round one in. I think it's the longest song I've ever written at about six minutes. Sorry judges :-) I'd actually written out lyrics for a country song first, but got frustrated and somehow it became mellow psychedelic pop. Only really kept a couple of lines.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:00 pm

josh wrote:Got round one in. I think it's the longest song I've ever written at about six minutes. Sorry judges :-)


Disqualified. :P
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Lunkhead » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:39 pm

There isn't a rule against changing your band name during the contest, is there? I can't find one...
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Niveous » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:07 am

Lunkhead wrote:There isn't a rule against changing your band name during the contest, is there? I can't find one...


A few bands have entered with different names in different years (ex: Oystercatcher/Boop Boop, Tydon Docks/Sid Denison and the Harpooners) but we've never had a midstream name change.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby josh » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:12 am

@Jon: Haha, I totally understand! If it helps, you can easily skip verse two and the second chorus and rejoin at the bridge. You won't miss anything. In fact, verse two contains the worst vocal section of the song, so it'd probably help me out voting wise to listen that way :-)
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:24 am

Niveous wrote:
Lunkhead wrote:There isn't a rule against changing your band name during the contest, is there? I can't find one...


A few bands have entered with different names in different years (ex: Oystercatcher/Boop Boop, Tydon Docks/Sid Denison and the Harpooners) but we've never had a midstream name change.


There was one, actually. In Nur Ein V, Wages entered round zero as a solo act, then changed to Hoglen & Wages for the rest of the competition. I don't recall this being a huge deal, since in some ways round zero "doesn't count." If I recall correctly, Ross was a little peeved about it but nobody else minded.

That said, if you change your band name in this round just for the sake of a good lyric and then change it back for the rest of the competition, that would leave a pretty bad taste in this judge's mouth. I acknowledge that Sam was probably joking, but I just wanted to make that clear for everyone.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby glennny » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:28 am

besides "Funk-Ed" rhymes with "Lunkhead", I wish I had that rhyme available.
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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Manhattan Glutton » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:27 am

Lunkhead wrote:There isn't a rule against changing your band name during the contest, is there? I can't find one...


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Re: Nur Ein X - Round Zero

Postby Generic » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:10 pm

josh wrote:@Jon: Haha, I totally understand! If it helps, you can easily skip verse two and the second chorus and rejoin at the bridge. You won't miss anything. In fact, verse two contains the worst vocal section of the song, so it'd probably help me out voting wise to listen that way :-)


Obviously I was joking, but only kind of. In these early rounds, we have 20-25 songs to listen to, preferably several times in 48 hours, and rank in order. It's easy to develop "listening fatigue" when there are so many songs, and if one of them is significantly longer than the rest, the judges might not be inclined to view it charitably.

That said, I'm no stranger to the long Nur Ein song, myself.

See "Stranded," Nur Ein V Round 1 (my entry clocks in at 5:50), and "The Best Place In Town is Also the Darkest," Nur Ein VII Round 2 (my entry clocks in at 5:59). "Stranded" did okay in the rankings, "Best Place in Town" didn't. It's a risk you run.

I also once turned in a nine-and-a-half-minute song for SpinTunes. I might be a little crazy sometimes.

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