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Just tossing this idea out there. Wondering how people feel about it.
I was playing the IDWTBYF fight today, and Madi was in the room, and I figured, 'oh, she can handle a few bad words'. But then Max the Cat's song came on and I quickly had to run to the stereo and switch to the next song. Eek.
So how do people feel about a purely optional indication of explicit lyrics when an artist's song is submitted? The songs could be marked as explicit on the main page, so this kind of thing doesn't happen, and I can more comfortably play fights while doing stuff around the house.
As mentioned above, this would be voluntary. When someone submitted a song, they would just indicate it had explicit lyrics, and the FMs would duly note it on the page, end of story.
I was playing the IDWTBYF fight today, and Madi was in the room, and I figured, 'oh, she can handle a few bad words'. But then Max the Cat's song came on and I quickly had to run to the stereo and switch to the next song. Eek.
So how do people feel about a purely optional indication of explicit lyrics when an artist's song is submitted? The songs could be marked as explicit on the main page, so this kind of thing doesn't happen, and I can more comfortably play fights while doing stuff around the house.
As mentioned above, this would be voluntary. When someone submitted a song, they would just indicate it had explicit lyrics, and the FMs would duly note it on the page, end of story.
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Well, whether or not I think it's worth it, I doubt it would be very effective. There are certainly bands I don't bother listening to based on their consistent sophomoric bs that fuels their "creativity". But even with Max, whom I love, I listen to everything before I'd blast it for the kids.
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To be completely clear I'm certainly not dissing Max in any way at all. I like the song, (though to me it's too much a rehash of his Here Comes My Dragon, a favorite of mine).
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As a general rule - all songs by Tex Beaumont will be generally family friendly.
I can't make the same claim for Caravan Ray though. He can occaisionally be a tad explicit - and no, he isn't going to warn you. You'll have to work it out for yourself I'm afraid. He's a bastard like that.
I can't make the same claim for Caravan Ray though. He can occaisionally be a tad explicit - and no, he isn't going to warn you. You'll have to work it out for yourself I'm afraid. He's a bastard like that.
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It's a good idea in thoery. But since we listen to all the songs in a stream how would you know what is family friendly and what is not. Especially if you play it randomized like I do.
I guess people could tag it when they create the song. Like ronerivendale_uan_e
the e at the end would signify that the song contains swearing or adult themes. What do you think?
I guess people could tag it when they create the song. Like ronerivendale_uan_e
the e at the end would signify that the song contains swearing or adult themes. What do you think?
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All Octothorpe is family friendly when it comes to explicit lyrics. However, a few years ago, Spudnut went through all our songs to see which ones she could burn onto a CD to share with her preschool classmates. Seems there are a fair number of people solving their problems with violence in our lyrics. People even die from time to time. So, you know, while they are safe for work, they may not be safe for preschool.
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I have two guys DRIVING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT in one. Oh, that was a cover of Jack and Glenn's. Still, there are hidden traps. BEWARE!
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Perhaps offending artists could have Parental Advisory logos tatooed on their forearms?
Actually, the one time I have written what I considered to be an 'explicit' lyric (Johnny Grippo's 'Shower Scene') I added 'warning: rude words ahead' and a 5 second gap at the start of the track. Confused the hell out of people! Actually got several 'don't get the start / don't like the opening' style reviews
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Actually, the one time I have written what I considered to be an 'explicit' lyric (Johnny Grippo's 'Shower Scene') I added 'warning: rude words ahead' and a 5 second gap at the start of the track. Confused the hell out of people! Actually got several 'don't get the start / don't like the opening' style reviews
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Re: Explicit
I feel it's unnecessary clutter. It's like one more thing that will have to be explained, and discussed, and misunderstood.Jim of Seattle wrote:So how do people feel about a purely optional indication of explicit lyrics when an artist's song is submitted?
It would be nice if there was some sort of ID3 flag for this, but I looked and couldn't find one.
On the other hand, any given fight is likely to have at least two or three entries that don't even have tags. I certainly wouldn't rely on other people to give some indication that their song is potentially offensive when I can't even rely on them to identify their band's name.
An "explicit lyrics" warning might seem helpful, but the lack of any such indication would be meaningless. You might feel better about listening with your kids around if you don't see any warning tags, but you still can't feel safe, so warnings wouldn't really accomplish anything.
On the other hand, any given fight is likely to have at least two or three entries that don't even have tags. I certainly wouldn't rely on other people to give some indication that their song is potentially offensive when I can't even rely on them to identify their band's name.
An "explicit lyrics" warning might seem helpful, but the lack of any such indication would be meaningless. You might feel better about listening with your kids around if you don't see any warning tags, but you still can't feel safe, so warnings wouldn't really accomplish anything.
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Of course it wouldn't "solve" any perceived problems. Just an idea.
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Re: Explicit
heh, I still can't get a grasp on the three fight thing...erik wrote:I feel it's unnecessary clutter. It's like one more thing that will have to be explained, and discussed, and misunderstood.Jim of Seattle wrote:So how do people feel about a purely optional indication of explicit lyrics when an artist's song is submitted?
perhaps I exagerrate..but try to explain it to someone you just met and to get them to make sure they listen to the fight YOU'RE in.
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I know. For all the many times I've had to try to explain SF to people, I still don't have the patter down right.
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"Songfight is a weeklyish songwriting competition. There are three titles given out, you have one week to choose a title and write and record a song for it. Then every song entered for that title goes into the 'fight' and they get reviews and votes, and then the song with the most votes for that title, wins."
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Smarty. Sounds easy, but you get the inevitable "So... how does it work, then? I don't get it." and round and round you go, explaining it for the zillionth time.Bjam wrote:"Songfight is a weeklyish songwriting competition. There are three titles given out, you have one week to choose a title and write and record a song for it. Then every song entered for that title goes into the 'fight' and they get reviews and votes, and then the song with the most votes for that title, wins."
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Y'know, I've never gotten that. People just go "Oh cool, I'll check it out then."Jim of Seattle wrote:Smarty. Sounds easy, but you get the inevitable "So... how does it work, then? I don't get it." and round and round you go, explaining it for the zillionth time.Bjam wrote:"Songfight is a weeklyish songwriting competition. There are three titles given out, you have one week to choose a title and write and record a song for it. Then every song entered for that title goes into the 'fight' and they get reviews and votes, and then the song with the most votes for that title, wins."
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You're better at it than me, then. I suck at explaining SF to people.
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right, which means they were'nt paying any attention to what you were actually sayingBjam wrote:Y'know, I've never gotten that. People just go "Oh cool, I'll check it out then."Jim of Seattle wrote:Smarty. Sounds easy, but you get the inevitable "So... how does it work, then? I don't get it." and round and round you go, explaining it for the zillionth time.Bjam wrote:"Songfight is a weeklyish songwriting competition. There are three titles given out, you have one week to choose a title and write and record a song for it. Then every song entered for that title goes into the 'fight' and they get reviews and votes, and then the song with the most votes for that title, wins."