When you used the phrase "fucking around" before, context implied that you were referring to someone who lives a life of constant sinning. That's what I meant when I co-opted your phrase. Of course, previous sins are necessary for repentance. But that is not what I was talking about, and that isn't what you were talking about.NeilThrun wrote:Id have to disagree, repenting requires that you have done something wrong. So I go fuck some men, kill some people, abort some feutus and such and then I go confess my sins and say that'll i'll never do it again. BLAH BLAH BLAH. Whats to stop it from becoming a cycle of sin,repent,sin,repent and so forth?erikb wrote:Why don't they accept this as a ticket to fuck around? Because if you believe that repenting is a condition to getting into Heaven/forgiveness, then fucking around goes completely against that. What do you think repent means?
When I asked before, I wasn't being rhetorical. Do you really think that "repent" means to say the word "sorry"? I can find no dictionary willing to reduce the word to this shadow of its actual meaning. Every definition I've seen includes something about being regretful for the things you have done. To actually have a plan in place to recommit a previous sin is completely at odds with feeling regret for commiting the sin in the past. Why would you plan on doing something again if you regretted doing it before? Fucking around in the sense of "sin, repent, repeat" is completely at odds with repentence.
Why does it matter to you that Christian Dude yells at Gay Dude? Does Christian Dude yelling at him matter at all? Well, it's rude to yell at someone. But aside from that, assuming that homolove is a sin, God is either going to forgive him or not, regardless of how much yelling Christian Dude does. Christian Dude yelling at a gay guy is a red herring, and has nothing at all to do with what you were talking about before: sin, repentence and forgiveness.NeilThrun wrote:Some Christian dude goes and supports the war, hell even kills some Iraqi millitants. He says its for the greater good, and repents and stuff. Essentially his actions were alright because Jesus forgives all of us.
Somebody else goes and commits a sin, lets say homosexuality, the Christian Dude from before yells at him and says that he can't do that. Christian Dude gets Christian Politician to ban homosexuality because its immoral.
I don't think that laws should be changed to reflect religious ideals, but that has nothing to do with sin, repentence and forgiveness.