That wasn't snark, that was an honestly-stated opinion. This isn't some kind of vendetta against you, but you turned in a song that was universally disliked by all five judges and everyone who's reviewed so far—and even you yourself call it "half-hearted." The reality of Nur Ein is that nobody here will stroke your ego for mediocre work. I don't think it's reasonable for you to turn in a half-hearted song and then expect everyone to tiptoe around that fact. This is NUR EIN! We don't use kid gloves here!Alvis wrote:(Slow clap) That's the most backhanded defense we've ever been the recipients of. Well done. (Of course, it may be the ONLY defense we've been the recipients of, so there's that.)Generic wrote:
I see your argument, but I would counter that BYD were not the only band this week that took that approach. Paco del Stinko, Orange Lazarus, and (arguably) Cavedwellers also did as well. BYD didn't "pull it off" as well as those other entries, but I think that has more to do with their inane lyrics (under the guise of being "funny") and weak vocal performance than with their approach to the challenge.
I realize you're not a fan of our stuff and we put in a particularly half-hearted entry this go-round, but I'm hoping you'll refrain from gratuitous snark in future comments since you find us so loveable. I know the reviews themselves are a different animal; to your credit I think you nailed ours pretty succinctly.
I don't dislike you as a person. And I do think you've been improving musically in the time I've been paying attention to your stuff. So I'm looking forward to seeing what you bring tomorrow night. Game on! NUR EIN!
Perhaps you have different criteria for "self-referential?" Paco's lyrics were about reconciling his stage identity Paco against his "real" identity Charlie. Orange Lazarus touched on that theme, but it wasn't really the whole focus of his song (I'm assuming "Kasey" is him, anyway).frankie big face wrote:It makes no sense for me to argue with a judge about another person's song, but no, I disagree. Only Cavedwellers took that tact and only for the last verse. Paco definitely did not do what I'm talking about and, even if Orange Lazarus (sort of) did, their lyrics were exceptional and therefore, they get a pass. Now stop it, Jon!Generic wrote: I see your argument, but I would counter that BYD were not the only band this week that took that approach. Paco del Stinko, Orange Lazarus, and (arguably) Cavedwellers also did as well. BYD didn't "pull it off" as well as those other entries, but I think that has more to do with their inane lyrics (under the guise of being "funny") and weak vocal performance than with their approach to the challenge.
I thought Cavedwellers was kind of stretch when I suggested it anyway. The song is sort of a thesis statement in who they are and the philosophical allegory behind their name. It's more "mission statement" than "self-reference," so I'll concede that point. And yes, this is an especially nitpick-y disagreement even by Nur Ein standards.